Unlock the Atlassian and Clovity podcast to hear digital transformation experts discuss how the Atlassian Government Cloud helps agencies unify cloud modernization, AI automation and compliance governance in a FedRAMP Moderate environment.
Cameron Starman
Hey everybody, thanks for joining us today. I've got senior solution engineers from Atlassian joining us today for a fireside chat on FedRAMP. My name is Cameron Starman, I'm a Senior Director of Client Management for Clovity, so really excited to be talking to these two gentlemen.
So we've got Virginia Rivera and we've got Cody Stevens, so I've got some questions for them today. Obviously, FedRAMP just rolled out recently in terms of the Atlassian suite, so there's a lot of questions around there, there's a lot of kind of noise in terms of how the government is going to start moving to the cloud, and obviously there's some folks out there, but this, from a compliance standpoint, is kind of a whole new space for Atlassian, so really excited. So we've got a few questions, guys, anything you guys want to say before we get started?
Arjuna Rivera
Hey, just super excited to be here, big fans of Clovity and some of the great work that you and your team are doing, so very excited to talk about FedRAMP and the Atlassian Government Cloud.
Cameron Starman
Awesome, well, we appreciate you guys, we're learning from you every day, so awesome. So to kind of kick us off, I wanted to see, you know, why government agencies, why should they consider FedRAMP right now? What's the pull, what's drawing that in?
Arjuna Rivera
Sure, well, if Cody's good, I'll start more on the, kind of my experience, so in terms of government and then, of course, the associated government contractors, it's really about data protection, right, when we talk about nation-state adversaries and maintaining data sensitivity within cloud and software as a service, it's important to have the level of security and compliance needed for a lot of these missions to be successful. So comes in legislative as well as other compliance requirements around how certain agency data is protected, DOD data is protected, and so forth and so on, and so FedRAMP is really where that comes in and the ability to attest to that we are compliant with this particular compliance vehicle being FedRAMP, and so government agencies know that they can go ahead and safely move their information into our Atlassian Government Cloud and be able to process the data accordingly.
Cody Stevens
Yeah, I mean, it also opens up cloud just in general, though, right, you know, I've been an admin, was an admin for years, and managing a data center infrastructure can be complicated. It takes time, you have to do upgrades, a lot of different things, those are not things that you have to deal with on the cloud, so it opens up that road for them to move to our cloud where they don't have to manage all that and they can just focus on their mission.
Cameron Starman
Definitely, and I think, you know, one, as a company, as Atlassian, right, then really more focused on one product, right, on the cloud suite, really just allows that expansion of that tool set, right, the functionality, obviously, you know, DC was great, it's had its uses, and, you know, will continue for a little while to have its uses, but there is just something very special about being able to focus on kind of that product suite, right?
Cody Stevens
Yeah, and let me just add to that, data center's not going anywhere, right, like, we have no intention of getting rid of data center and moving away from that. There's still a lot of use cases in that, in government, in financial space, healthcare space, right, there's still a lot of use cases and situations where maybe somebody can't move to the cloud, but, you know, having FedRAMP inside of our cloud now just opens up a lot more doors, and it is that path to getting customers off the data center as soon as possible.
Cameron Starman
Yeah, agreed. Awesome. Anything else on that topic, guys, or want to move on to the next one?
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, just a quick one, I mean, we keep talking about data center and maintaining, you know, your own infrastructure.
Cameron Starman
Right.
Arjuna Rivera
I think part of the question in regards to, you know, government agencies and why move to cloud is really the benefits of cloud scale, right, so compute, storage, the elasticity, right, of being able to kind of onboard users and still be able to provide those types of services compared to Cody's point, having to manage all that infrastructure, patching.
Cody Stevens
Well, and just the sheer cost in some cases, right, I can't name names here, but I mean, we have, you know, I have a customer, they're paying close to a million dollars in just storage costs.
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah.
Cody Stevens
And you're not going to have that problem on our cloud, right, you get unlimited storage. Right. You know, so it just simplifies the overall process.
Yeah.
Cameron Starman
Yeah. There's definitely a lot of technical debt out there, and I think that will help combat that, right? Yeah, there's a lot of antiquated systems, and I think, you know, making the government more collaborative through these rollouts, I think, is going to continue because, you know, I mean, with cloud, I think you just kind of naturally have that ability to roll it out to more places and kind of keep that growing.
Cody Stevens
Yeah. It's a great chance for customers to look at it as a transformation as well, right, being able to say, what are we doing really well inside of data center, and what are we not doing well at, and let's fix that, right, let's not just take what we have and put it inside a cloud, that generally doesn't work, right? Let's refocus on how we're doing things, improve that, and then rebuild something in cloud that's even better than what we're doing today.
Yeah.
Cameron Starman
I love that holistic approach in terms of, like, you know, let's project management for all, service management for all, right, and how, you know, knowledge management for all. I think the knowledge management, that's out there, but the service component and the proper project management tools are just so key because you have a lot of things out there where it's just antiquated systems, or it's all done on email, or all done on Excel spreadsheets, and things can just fall through the cracks, right?
Arjuna Rivera
100%. I know we're still on question one, but I'm going to add just a quick one because you had mentioned collaboration, right, and I think at least what I'm seeing within kind of our public sector vertical is today with the data center installations, it's very difficult for government organizations to collaborate, say, in JIRA or in Confluence, right? So VPN, external access, you name it, that has a lot of kind of organizational drag and just being able to, like, hey, I want to work with this team in JIRA.
Cameron Starman
Right.
Arjuna Rivera
Moving to the cloud now opens that aperture in regards to being able to seamlessly bring on, you know, agency X, agency Y, you know, different branches of the DOD can now, you know, we haven't been able to do so outside of, you know, maybe SIPR or NIPRNet, you know.
Cameron Starman
I mean, to go off on a tangent, was that intentional, though? Like, I think, obviously, there's a point now where I think that collaboration is so important, right, and that ability to work with teams. Obviously, they were kind of set up this way, and maybe that was just kind of the limitations of, you know, the past, right?
I think, I mean, you two as kind of experts in this space, while it maybe might take a little while, do you guys feel like there might be some more ability to de-silo? Obviously, you're just going to have secret information, you're going to have stuff that can't be accessed by everybody, but, you know, if you have teams with the same levels of clearance, I think there's, they should be communicating, right, or have that ability. So, do you see that kind of changing, do you feel like that's going to loosen up with these new offerings?
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, I believe so. I'll let you jump in. But, yeah, for sure, I mean, you know, the whole, when you talk about, you know, projects in general, right, and you talk about the ability to not only bring in the prime or the subs, contractors, even customers, you now have this, just a more streamlined way of doing it in cloud versus having to open up your firewalls and getting access to, you know, key fobs, you know what I'm saying, all of that, to just be able to get them access to a particular system. Now, you know, as long as, again, to your point about the clearance levels, if they have a need to know and they have the right level, it's a lot easier within our Atlassian Government Cloud to be able to have that collaboration among outside groups.
Cody Stevens
For sure. Especially on the reporting side as well, right, with Atlassian Analytics bringing that into our AGC environment, even if you want to have teams maintain separate environments or in what we call separate sites, right, they're still under the same organization. You can still bring that data and report on that data across all of them.
So it really drops some of those barriers that you would face when you have multiple data center instances and teams that are separated out.
Cameron Starman
The Atlassian Analytics thing is very important, too, because I think having that high-level ability to see, you know, where are your choke points, where are your issues, right, and what teams are doing good, right, and how do you model off of those teams, right? It doesn't only have to be where, what are the negative things we're noticing, but where are those positives, right, and how do you start to kind of multiply that out? Because I think it's hard when everybody's kind of off doing their own thing, you can't really take those best practices so readily, right, and start to bring that up.
Yeah. Nice. Yeah.
Cool. So I think kind of my next one, so what excites you, you know, about FedRAMP, AGC, or Atlassian Government Cloud? Just, you know, so if you hear us use that, that's what we're referring to.
You know, but from a government solutioning perspective. Like, I think we kind of touched on that a little bit on that last one, just in terms of collaboration, but I guess just kind of specifically going that direction. You want to start?
Cody Stevens
Yeah, I mean, I think for me, honestly, it's about the future of where the platform is going to go. If you look at our commercial cloud, we have too many products to name, honestly. We have a lot of different products in there.
Right now, even on data center, it's just mainly you have Jira, Confluence, and Jira Service Management. That's what we're bringing inside of AGC at first, but we're already talking about Elasti Analytics. Eventually, we'll have those other products as well and all the additional features that are coming in here.
So our end goal, where we're heading for AGC, is going to be very special, I guess, to put it that way, because you're going to be able to do a lot more than what you're able to do right now with, again, dropping some of those silos. That's what makes me excited, just getting some of those other products in there.
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, yeah, just to piggyback. Yeah, I think where Cody's headed is where we're investing a lot in innovation as it relates to our commercial cloud and now what we can start bringing over to our government cloud. So again, functionality, feature capabilities, it matters.
But at the end of the day, just being able to drive some of the new user experience, the updates we've made from a user interface standpoint, just that evolution from data center to commercial cloud and now being able to bring that into a government cloud excites me, because I want all our users to kind of see, hey, this is what you're investing in. Here's the greatness around JIRA and Confluence, JIRA Service Management and beyond. When you're living in data center day in and day out, you're kind of not as excited, because you're like, I've seen this for the last 5, 10 years.
You know what I'm saying? And oh, I have FOMO, because I see all this cloud stuff. I'm like, I want to be there.
So that's what excites me in regards to now we can kind of start introducing some of this innovation and investment into cloud to some of these users who just haven't experienced that.
Cody Stevens
I mean, to even jump on that, too, our customers that are coming in right now, you're at the very beginning of where AGC is at. You get a chance to help form what that's going to look like as well and really partner with us. And so that's also really exciting.
Cameron Starman
Lasting does take good feedback.
Cody Stevens
They are listening.
Cameron Starman
And I think I kind of even, I'm excited about the process transformation ability, where it's like, yes, like the automation, but as a solution partner, looking at how do we change the way that these different groups work? How do they kind of, again, we kind of touched on that earlier, in taking service requests, and how are they kind of managing that as a team? And how do they understand what the workload is happening?
If you have just something that's going to a general inbox and then whoever picks it up picks it up, that's just not a good way of knowing how it's being triaged. How long has it been sitting there, right? Does this need to be worked on now?
Does this need to be worked on later? So I think, while I love the innovation piece, I think just rethinking and retooling just some of the processes or putting that in. And the ability for also that self-help ability with Confluence and JSM, how do you start to create this more ubiquitous self-service where somebody can find out that information on their own?
And then hopefully only the bigger stuff is now kind of coming down the pipeline, and everybody gets to focus on kind of more the real core of their job versus just answering questions or whatever. My brain, yeah. Nice.
Yeah, anything else on that area, guys? No. Cool.
And then, so I think, obviously, we were just talking, FedRAMP is kind of on the newer side. Are there currently any nuances of FedRAMP AGC that clients should be aware of as they go to, or as they start to roadmap this, let's say?
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, that's a good one. I don't know, I'll kick it off. Even though, honestly, you should kick it off, because you had the first one.
Cody Stevens
I am in day in, day out right now.
Arjuna Rivera
You go, Cody, because you started.
Cody Stevens
Apps are our biggest thing. That's the biggest concern. We're working with a lot of our app vendors to bring their app into the environment.
And it just takes a little bit of lift, right? You have to update the app to work with the AGC endpoints. You may have to redevelop part of it to be on what we call our Forge platform, so it's being hosted by Atlassian.
So there's a little bit of work there. That is honestly the biggest thing that we're working through. Right now, we have, I want to say, 20, 25 apps available, and we're working with another, about 90 of the biggest ones to bring them in.
So we're tracking toward that. It's going to be, we aim to have a lot of that ready for, hopefully, by our full release in September. But that's the biggest consideration, really, is just apps.
And then the other piece that we run into, as well, is just how users access the system. That's the biggest change, because generally, in the government, you're being required to go through SSO, which is normal, but there is no username and sign-in for AGC. You only have SSO.
And so that initial configuration, a little bit more white glove than what our customers may be used to. Generally, they just install the system, load it up, they do it all themselves. We actually have to help go through that.
We have to get some SSO information from you, set that up. Those are really the biggest considerations.
Cameron Starman
Yeah. Once you get that lift, it's much nicer just to kind of log right in.
Cody Stevens
Well, then it works across the whole domain, too. So then anybody that is granted access can just be fed right in, and you're in.
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, I would add to that. I think it's more from a culture and behavior standpoint. So you have, we have such a cottage industry built on knowing data center and how to really manipulate and change and do all these access to the database, right, Rog?
And so when you go cloud, period, not just our cloud, but any cloud, there's a big shift in some of that local management that you used to do is now kind of obfuscated because you no longer have that level of access to infrastructure like you did on your own prem. So there's a little bit of kind of that learning curve as to, okay, now I need to learn how to interact with APIs if I want to be able to pull certain information out and so forth. So to me, I think, so apps, definitely a big one.
Identity and access management is another one, especially if you're used to like LDAP or if you're leveraging cloud on prem and whatnot. Now you're using Atlassian Guard. So there's some differences with just going to cloud and then on top of that, making sure that you have what you need to support your users and their business requirements as you move them into AGC.
So a little bit of a change, especially for the admins all the way to some of the users.
Cameron Starman
Got it. And I mean, yeah, that's just something, I think, as it rolls out, you guys will kind of be pretty hands-on and just in terms. Now, how did you guys pick, obviously you're probably looking at download numbers, stuff like that.
How did you guys kind of triage, just in terms of what apps were you bringing over? Was it more the, I mean, I'm assuming the companies themselves that were putting these out also had to have the appetite to do that. But how did you guys kind of, I guess, approach that process?
Cody Stevens
It was a mix of things. We had app vendors that reached out to us and said, hey, we really want to be in the environment. It's like, cool, let's get you in there, right?
How do we make it happen? Others, we had customers that were saying, look, we want to be on AGC on day one, right? And this is our app list.
This is what we need from you. And so we said, okay. And we went to those app vendors and said, this is what we need from you to bring this customer in.
And that's what we've been doing. And then, like you said, too, right? Some of the bigger ones, you think, like a script runner or something like that, right?
A lot of our customers are using it. We obviously know that they need it. So we're working on bringing stuff like that.
Cameron Starman
That makes sense. Yeah, it's definitely a lot of nuance when you're trying to kind of lift and shift everybody over to this newer space. Is it, you know, just from a compliance perspective, I assume there's definitely some challenges that kind of come up with those app vendors, or I mean, just the main platforms itself, right?
Like, you know, you brought up APIs just a minute ago, like how those are interacting, how those are sharing data, right? You've built this compliance system, right? But then what about the connectors?
What about the bolt-ons, right? So it's definitely something you have to look at every single piece and make sure that it's still kind of truing up to kind of the main compliance goal.
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, I mean, part of our jobs is working with the customer and their respective security teams and others as it relates to, if you say you need an app and it's not there yet, you know, are you okay with it being compatible? There may be a level of risk assessment and acceptance that needs to happen, but that's what we're doing as some of the prequalifications to kind of go into AGC. And so far, my experience has been with the several customers I've worked with is like, that's no different than what we do with everyone else.
So like, they're on board with, yeah, let's do the risk assessment, see, you know, is the app processing data? Is it storing data? You know what I'm saying?
And just kind of get into some of those details and then they end up making a determination.
Cameron Starman
Is that kind of where like the Forge comes in and just in terms of like, everything needs to stay on kind of like- Yeah, yeah, ideally, right? Yeah, it can't be checking with the third party.
Cody Stevens
Well, so you can still reach out externally with Forge. And so there's gonna be different classification levels within Forge. Just the main difference is it's reaching out to go, you know, reach out to a third party system or do something over there, but we're still hosting that app data, right?
So it's hosted on our infrastructure still, but there'll be different classification levels where it's a Forge app that does reach out to third parties. There's a Forge app that doesn't reach out to third parties. That's gonna be an easier security review.
App vendors that have gone through the process of actually getting FedRAMP compliant, that's a whole other security level, right? Maybe you don't need to do a security review at that point. It's FedRAMP compliant, you're good.
Cameron Starman
Got it, then you just add it.
Cody Stevens
Yeah, then you just add it, exactly.
Cameron Starman
Okay, cool.
Cody Stevens
And the thing too is, what we wanna do is we wanna look at these apps and say, okay, what are we doing in cloud, right? Because cloud is different, right? It's a different product and data center.
Maybe you were using an app that isn't available in cloud, but that's because there's a product gap there, a feature gap, right? We may have filled that gap inside of cloud. And so we need to look at that and say, okay, well, maybe we can help you do something natively as well.
Cameron Starman
Cool, guys, anything else on that topic? I think that's good. Sounds good.
Cool. And then I think probably my favorite one. Now, what does the future of FedRAMP, Elastian, Government Cloud, what does that look like?
As people are deciding whether to make this move, it's obviously these large organizations, it takes a lot of effort, it takes some money. The value's there, but you still get the ball rolling, you still gotta get there. What does the future look like?
What's really gonna reel them in?
Cody Stevens
I mean, our north star is feature parity between commercial and agency, right? That's the end goal. And also, I would say it doesn't end with moderate, right?
We're not just stopping there, we're gonna keep going. We'll get FedRAMP 5, we'll get IL5, we'll keep going on those certifications that we need to enable even more customers to come over to our Government Cloud platform.
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think you mentioned earlier, we're definitely listening to our customers and hearing, and even at Team 25 this year in Anaheim, we announced Elastian Government Cloud, we also announced Elastian Isolated Cloud. Under NDA, we're talking about other cloud types of offerings to really kind of meet the customer and where they are leveraging our products today and data center for those IL5, IL6+, secret regions and so forth, you know what I'm saying?
So our products are positioned to really support a lot of missions, not just US missions, but globally, when we think about the various ministries of defense and so forth. So I'm excited and thinking that these are the stepping stones, so this AGC, FedRAMP Moderate, to Cody's point, not the end all, be all, but really that kind of stepping stone and platform to kind of see where else we can meet our customers to support their mission.
Cameron Starman
Sure, yeah, and I was thinking about the isolated cloud announcement more in the commercial space, but I think you're right. And all of these will converge as well, right? Or start to converge, at least the practices and kind of that understanding when that comes is obviously TBP, but I think, yeah, there's definitely some cool kind of areas that that will continue to open up, right, as we look at it.
Yep, absolutely. Had a question.
Arjuna Rivera
That we were. The follow up has come and gone.
Cameron Starman
Yeah, the follow up, just your response was so good. I think from an outside perspective, right, AI is kind of everywhere. We haven't even brought AI up.
Arjuna Rivera
I know, I know, I know, we can't have this whole conversation.
Cameron Starman
Obviously that takes a little while to kind of get there, but I think what you hear every day is that the government is looking to utilize that technology, right? And I think it's important. I know I use it all the time.
It helps me do my job every day, and yeah, it's not taking my job anytime soon, but it really does help accelerate a lot of things, and I think, especially from a government perspective, that's what we need, right? You're taking care of a lot of people, and the best way to kind of do that is to be able to do that, kind of just get you a couple steps ahead of where you are, right? Not complete the process, just kind of get you there.
I mean, how are you guys looking at it? I know, obviously, you were talking about feature parity, which would be Atlassian Intelligence, kind of on that release. Are you guys finding any issues with that right now, or is it kind of seems to be on track?
Cody Stevens
We're working on it.
Cameron Starman
Okay.
Cody Stevens
You know, what I'll say is you have to separate AI in two different buckets, right? You have Atlassian Intelligence, which think of that as, well, you're in Confluence, right, and a word is highlighted, and it tells you what it is. That's Atlassian Intelligence, right?
When it's suggesting a ticket that is a related item, that's Atlassian Intelligence. Then you have Robo, which is a whole separate piece on top of it, right? So these things will come in waves.
You're not gonna get just all of AI in one go. Sure. But we're working toward it.
It's for sure something that we know. We want ourselves in AGC, right? We're in our own environment.
We want it. We know our customers want it. So it's definitely something that we're working toward.
Yeah, makes sense.
Cameron Starman
Yeah, definitely something you wanna take very tactfully forward, right? Sure. Awesome.
So I think my last kind of one that I had there was any parting insights from two subject matter experts just to throw out things that they should consider on the roadmap, like what type of, help are they gonna need, right? That kind of stuff. What are some recommendations you guys have?
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, I'll go ahead and start. Yeah, I mean, I'm having these conversations today with customers in regards to helping them truly understand their workloads and their data protection needs. Because our commercial cloud is heavily certified.
When you talk about HIPAA, GDPR, we have our SOC 2, SOC 3, compliant with numerous ISO standards. So a lot of times, some of the customers that we work with, they're either supporting an agency or some government we didn't really touch upon, like state and local. We're finding more times than not, they don't necessarily need AGC or Atlassian Government Cloud.
Or maybe there's a part of what they're doing that should be there, but the rest can go commercial. So overall, we try to really support and be as open and transparent with our customers as it relates to where we think they can do their best work and not automatically just think because it says government in it, in government cloud, that they have to move everything there. So we're definitely working, I mean, on the solutions engineering side, we're definitely supporting solutions like hybrid types of environments where they may maintain some of their data on-prem and via app links, still able to communicate and leverage the cloud compute, cloud scale and AGC, and then, or even just move some projects over versus totality.
So again, we're really trying to support what's right for the customer. We're not just trying to sell them, hey, here's a new cloud. But all in all, I think it's important that you as a partner, us as Lasting, we continue to work with our customers to kind of do that and make sure that they're getting the best experience possible.
Cody Stevens
Yeah, I mean, the only thing I'll add to that, and I said it earlier, is really take this time to look at this as a transformation, right? This is not a, let's just throw our data over into a new environment and call it a day, right? This is a chance to, again, look at what you're doing really well at, what you're not doing well at, and how can we take our overall process and improve this and make this better for our users, our constituents, whatever it may be.
How do we support our projects better, our missions better? And so this is that opportunity, and this is where we take that time to do it.
Cameron Starman
Definitely. I love, you brought up SLED, and we hadn't touched on that. Sorry, State Local Education, just in case you're not following the acronym.
But, you know, from a SLED perspective, right, you have TxRAMP, you've got CovRAMP. I'm assuming there's maybe another one.
Arjuna Rivera
I don't know all of them. State Ramp. Any State Ramp.
Cameron Starman
Yeah, yeah, yeah, any State Ramp. You know, I think what we're seeing is part of, there's some nuances out there, because we're seeing some individuals that are on Commercial Cloud that are now asking to go FedRAMP, right? Obviously, I think what we discuss most is kind of data center to that.
I mean, what are you guys seeing out there? I guess, you know, just figured we'd maybe touch on it.
Arjuna Rivera
Yeah, we're seeing a few who are like, hey, we were in commercial, we want a new bid, and the CEO or the contracting officer now is requiring, you know, protected CUI or something like that. So now they're like, okay, motivated to move from commercial into AGC. So yeah, there's definitely a few of those kind of edge cases where they haven't been traditionally on data center and going to AGC as their first foray into cloud.
We definitely have a few that have been in commercial cloud, really loving it, and have been looking forward to now going into AGC.
Cody Stevens
Well, and Arjuna's earlier point, too, right? It doesn't have to be your entire instance in that case. Sometimes it's just the, hey, like you said, we won this bid, we have to do this project, this data's different classification level, we're gonna put it over here into AGC, we're gonna keep the rest on commercial.
Cameron Starman
Right, really critical to ask the right questions. Instead of being like, oh, it all has to go, you're like, oh no, only this piece, oh, okay, cool, glad we clarified.
Cody Stevens
Yeah, and there's gonna be, I mean, you know, data center to AGC, you're gonna gain a lot, right? There's gonna be big differences there, but there's gonna be a lot of differences between commercial cloud and AGC, right? There's a lot more consideration that you have to make there because you have some of those additional features that you aren't missing from data center, but in AGC, you're not gonna have some of that.
Cameron Starman
Right, but you're also gonna get the enterprise level of those licenses now.
Cody Stevens
You will, yeah.
Cameron Starman
So that you will, you know, you might have some new features, some, you know.
Cody Stevens
Yeah, you might gain analytics as an example, right? And some other additional features that you're not typically privy to on whatever version you are in commercial. But there will be some differences.
Cameron Starman
No, definitely. Cool, so yeah, I mean, we touched on state and local. I was just trying to think if there's anything else that we should kind of touch on today.
I don't know, anything I didn't ask that like, you know, I'm like typing the prompt. Is there anything you didn't tell me about what you just told me now? Enter.
Yeah, I guess, yeah, anything I didn't ask.
Cody Stevens
I mean, from what you've seen of AGC, what's got you the most excited? What do you want inside of AGC yourself?
Cameron Starman
I mean, that's a great question. So I think, you know, overall, and I've kind of touched on it a few times. It's creating a system of work for these entities that have been using a bunch of different bloated tools that are just not really helpful, cost a ton of money in storage or upkeep or are no longer secure or no longer supported, right?
And, you know, Atlassian does a good job. Their costs are very fair and their products are strong, you know? And I think getting these out there and having that ability for more entities to collaborate and utilize these things, I think we are gonna see a shift in, you know, not only just like the way they work, but like the actual how people feel about the work, right?
And I think, you know, there's, you know, bless all the people in government, right? Because they've done so much. And sometimes you get a peek behind the hood and you're like, oh, oh, wow, all right.
That's an old system, right? That's like an old way of doing things. Like you guys are supporting, you know, thousands of 100,000 people, right?
With these things, and I think giving them the right tool, I think will just kind of create this exponential ability for them to service a lot more. I think just be a lot, you know, faster interested in terms of like some of the automation, some of the things that can be set up, you know, they don't have to take every single piece and move that forward. Now, you know, there's workflows that can be built out.
There's understandings that can be built out. And, you know, people are doing approvals and doing the checks, but you don't have to do every single piece and kind of move that forward one by one. So I think that's where I'm excited because I think, you know, there's obviously, although cloud's been around for a while, it's, you know, still a lot of, you know, financial services is a little hesitant.
Healthcare is a little hesitant. You've got the government that's hesitant. You know, I get it.
And you want to keep people's data safe and, you know, a data leak or something like that is devastating for anybody. And, you know, for the users as well as, you know, the entities that it happens to. So I think just overall, you know, having that ability for more people to utilize those, you know, the functions from cloud.
And like you said, take some of that overhead off. And so I'm looking towards that. It's more just kind of that modernizing that system of work, you know, creating and being able to really utilize the Atlassian ecosystem to its full potential.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Cool. Well, thank you guys so much for being here today.
This was fun. And, you know, we definitely wanted to get some more information out. So thank you guys for joining us today.
We look forward to doing some more of these if you guys are up for it. But just wanted to sign off real quick. Thanks again and appreciate the time.
I'm Cameron Starman. I'm Arjuna Rivera. I'm Cody Stephens.
Thanks guys.